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chestnut lodge asylum in rockville

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  rachael   created   Thu 6 Apr 2006   4:06 pm

u guys have any recent info on this place?

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  SolarAngel+   created   Fri 7 Apr 2006   2:31 am

Presently, most of the place is surrounded by that bright orange, flexible/droopy plastic, construction type fencing. I'll try to drive through with a camera later today.

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  rachael   created   Fri 7 Apr 2006   3:05 pm

thanks. i was reading about it and it said it was gonna be torn down, but it didnt say when. so i was wondering if it was still there.

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  SolarAngel+   created   Fri 7 Apr 2006   7:07 pm

Several NT signs up. They took the flexible, plasticky, bright orange fencing down. Huge potholes in the driveway. Very deserted. Neighborhoods and Rockville city bustle within one block / stone's throw on all sides. Several logs blocking driveways to rear of compound. Will try the back way in next time. There's a big page on this place over at http://carantics.com/haunts



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Description: On the historic parcel of the Chestnut Lodge (sanitarium) in Rockville, Maryland






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  gokartguy   created   Fri 7 Apr 2006   7:44 pm
gokartguy   updated   Fri 7 Apr 2006   7:57 pm  

This place looks very cool. Has anyone been able to get inside to take pictures? I think i'm going to have to take another road trip, so i was wondering if you can give me some directions to this place from I-95 in White Marsh.Hopefully i can come back with interior pics.

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  SolarAngel+   created   Sat 8 Apr 2006   12:31 am

I wouldn't recommend that. Quite a few of the buildings are historic, and they all appear to be locked up tight. I understand there are preservation plans, and only structures to the rear might be in jeopardy. The plan is to save the northwestern grove of 125 chestnut trees as well as restore the main building. Breaking and entering in a highly dense residential area might land you in the nearby jail. Besides, there's a work crew almost always present (today's was by the utility building), and I wonder if they wouldn't unlock a door or three if asked nicely.



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  SolarAngel+   created   Sat 8 Apr 2006   12:39 am

Chestnut Lodge   http://www.eastghost.com/haunt/814/

Washington DC's only remaining resort hotel, built just outside Rockville, Maryland, in 1886 as a summer boarding house and named for 125 chestnut trees on its twenty acres, Chestnut Lodge was operated as a "sanitarium for the care of nervous and mental diseases" by the Bullard family for nearly a century.

Ownership history:

* Chestnut Lodge Properties, Inc. (Dec 2003-present)
* Washington waldorf school (2001-2003) WWS
* CPC Health (1997-2001, bankruptcy)
* 3 generations of Bullard family, Dr. Bullard (1906, 1910-1997)
* Woodlawn Hotel (Colley of DC's Clarendon hotel, Charles Bell, 1889)
* Willson as a "summer boarding house." (Willson, 1886)

As the center of commerce and legal affairs for Montgomery County, Rockville was a fine locale for hotels. Beginning in the 1750s, travelers, courthouse clientele, salesmen, and visitors to the Court House town stayed at Lawrence Owen's ordinary, Charles Hungerford's tavern, Francis Kidwell's Farmers Hotel, the Washington Hotel, the Union Hotel (rebuilt as the Corcoran), the Montgomery House, and others.

The arrival of the B&O railroad in 1873 changed the town. Rockville became a destination for city-dwellers wanting to spend a weekend, holiday, or summer in the country. In addition to the hotels around Court House Square, summer visitors took rooms in local boarding houses or made arrangements to stay in private homes.

In 1886, Charles G. Willson purchased five acres west of the town of Rockville, hired an architect, and began to build a large, four-story brick "summer boarding house." Before the building was completed, Willson filed for bankruptcy. Among those looking at the building were the Trustees of the Rockville Academy. The unfinished hotel and adjoining three acres were bought for $6,000 by Mary J. Colley, proprietress of the Clarendon Hotel in Washington, D.C., and her partner Charles W. Bell.

When the Woodlawn Hotel opened for business in the spring of 1889, it was an immediate success. S

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  gokartguy   created   Sat 8 Apr 2006   9:24 am

I guess i can scratch that idea, i thought all of the buildings were going to be torn down.Thanks for the warning.

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  Maggie   created   Mon 10 Apr 2006   3:19 pm

IIRC, Chestnut Lodge wasn't just any insane asylum. It catered to the wealthy/well-to-do. So some of the rich families would commit their insane relatives there.

Based on this 1996 data, it was a large facility:
http://www.hospital-data.com/hospitals/ CHESTNUT-LODGE-HOSPITAL-ROCKVILLE.html

110 beds, over 200 staff

Link to article from 1996 Psychiatric Times:
http://www.psych.org/pnews/96-09-20/lod ge.html

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  SolarAngel+   created   Mon 10 Apr 2006   4:49 pm

There's at least one connection to CIA funded LSD and drug research / treatment. http://www.frankolsonproject.org

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  spiderwing   created   Sun 20 Aug 2006   12:59 pm

For what it's worth, I can add a negative data point. Both of my parents worked at Chestnut Lodge during the 1950's (neither one of them had government clearance, so I can't comment on CIA experimentation - if LSD studies were going on there, the staff as a whole didn't know about it).

No accounts of hauntings at that time. The stories I've heard don't mention electroshock as a standard treatment, and it's clear that the entire patient population was not constantly pumped full of thorazine. It's also clear that the patients were not all schizophrenic - some were obsessive/compulsive, and there were a fair number of autistic patients as well. As has been pointed out, this is where psychiatric patients from wealthy families were sent, so it's not surprising that it would provide more humane treatment than other hospitals of the period.

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  caraloopy   created   Sun 27 Aug 2006   1:32 pm

Hi

Thanks for all the pics. I used to live there, but have moved away and haven't been back in over ten years...maybe 15. It sure does look different now. I am hoping to get up there in the next year or so before they tear all the buildings down. Just to look around. These pics don't creep me out much, they just bring back a lot of memories.

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  SecretKnowledge   created   Sun 27 Aug 2006   5:29 pm

OMG just looking at those pictures made me sick to my stomach and my face all tingly. What the heck... is it totally full of spirits or what? I got HORRIBLE, CRAZY VIBES. Okay gotta go... fill me in on what the deal is with that place!!

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  IN2GHOSTS   created   Wed 17 Jan 2007   7:25 pm

Thanks for the pics -- I used to live in Montgomery County and drive by there all the time on my way to Montgomery College when it was open. I always wanted to pull in and look around. I used to volunteer at the local hospital and one of the patients that came to be there was from Chestnut Lodge. She was an interesting lady, didn't say much and just luved to take her gown off. I would tell the head nurse and she'd say, I stopped trying to re-dress her, she just keeps doing that. I asked her why, and she explained that she was transferred from Chestnut Lodge due to a heart condition. I said ohhhh. She was a lil nutty.

I hope the county plans to do something with property. Sooner or later there's not going to be much left historically from those era's if they keep tearing stuff down to make room for houses. It would be beneficial to restore rather than to tear down. They would be amazed how much money people spend to live in ahouse that is of "historical" quality than a brand new home. At least I know I would -- but that's just my opinion.

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  merrydeath   created   Tue 23 Jan 2007   10:16 pm

Oh man.....seeing these photos brings back aLOT of memories...I was a patient there a long time ago...I think I was 13...? I ws there for 2 1/2 years. I'm now 29 and live in Hollywood, Ca. I'm trying to locate other people that may have been there during my stay. My name is Meredith maske and I lived in the adolescent (ACD) division. If anyone remembers me, please contact! thanks!!!!

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  SolarAngel+   created   Wed 24 Jan 2007   4:40 am

Yeah, and the cookie-cutter subdivisions are so nearby that it really looks as if the historic district is being overrun. See also http://peerlessrockville.org/

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  Havoc737903   created   Sat 3 Feb 2007   11:36 pm

It's disgusting really. I pass that place every day on my way to the fire academy.
I hate to see that place turned into million dollar town homes, or whatever their plans are.
Something about that place freaks me out, but I would have loved to have gone inside and checked the place out before they started work on it.

Rumors were abound on some websites about the place questioning it's structual integrity.
I know for a fact that the fire department has used the place for some training drills, so I guess it's safe enough to walk around in.

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  !paigelette   created   Sun 12 Aug 2007   11:43 am

Is this Gunston Meredith? myspace.com/paigeclulow ~...What's happened to you since Gunston? Always knew you'd have an interesting life.... Paige Clulow (ie Patterson)

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